(s) "Maybe Jakob should get a divorce before he call you again, from my phone (....) what do you think ? Be careful about who you trust on the internet."
I call the number where the message comes from, hear some noises and the phone is hung up again. Still in shock I get the next message:
(s) "Jakob don't want to speak with you right now, he hung up. Maybe he will call you when i'm at work. He is home all day every day."
and I ask back and have a short dialogue with the sender:
(D) "Who are you ?"
(s) "Jakobs wife."
(D) "(....)"
(s) "I would feel the same. I'm ok, i just don't want to pay the phone bill so he can have fun instead of getting a job. That's all."
(D) "(...)."
(s) "Well, he is not that brave. But lets see what happens. I hope you are okay or will be. I got nothing against you and if Jakob would pay for himself then I would never have contacted you. I know how he is and nothing surprise me when it comes to him. Sorry. Try not to feel hurted."
(D) "(...)"
(s) "Well, he is not exactly a prince, you know. And its a long story. Take care and goodnight"
Later, I will know his wife is telling me the truth.
That moment I receive the messages I just know something is wrong. Something is really wrong. This time I listen to my instinct and step back from the idea to have a relationship with Jakob. But from now on until the day we meet Jakob tries everything to get me back. I get messages over messages, explanations, justifications and love letters over love letters (love bombing !).The first message I receive from him after this evening is the following long letter which I will also later attach as original. He explaines and excuses everything in a quite reasonable way and makes me think that his wife seems to get him intentionally into trouble:
Later, I will know his wife is telling me the truth.
That moment I receive the messages I just know something is wrong. Something is really wrong. This time I listen to my instinct and step back from the idea to have a relationship with Jakob. But from now on until the day we meet Jakob tries everything to get me back. I get messages over messages, explanations, justifications and love letters over love letters (love bombing !).The first message I receive from him after this evening is the following long letter which I will also later attach as original. He explaines and excuses everything in a quite reasonable way and makes me think that his wife seems to get him intentionally into trouble:
(...)told me you had written some mails to me but she deleted them. So i dont know what you wrote me -except something about us in the church which she told me she would write you back on. I can only guess what she will write and it's probably not something nice.
But one thing is very clear: i am not married to her. She's my ex-wife. And this is NOT the first time she goes ballistic on myspace. I told you i had an account earlier, my sinnerboy account. Back then she hacked into my account and wrote a lot of foolish things to a lot of women on that page. I forgave her cause she was in a bad state of mind. So i created a new one account. She knew about it but didnt care..we were friends and she had an affair with that english guy i was telling you about. (...)'s not evil but she's one bad fucker to have as an enemy. She have absolutely no limits when she wants to hit some one..and she's good at it....I think she feels she has a God given right to strike out as she please when she's feeling miserable. And this time she really hit me hard cause i really do love you.
she called me before christmas and asked me if i could visit her cause she felt lost and sad. And since i had the time i said yes. She asked why i didnt moved back to norway, i had friends here and she knew how bored i felt in denmark. We never discussed starting over our relationship. I had some doubts but gradually she persuaded me. I had money enough to stay here for some time until i found a job. But time went and i was more interested in speaking with you than to do something about my worksituation. In january I told her about how i felt for you, she laughed and told me to get serious and grow up. So i gave up speaking about my feelings for you. Then things with the english guy crashed for real and she suddenly now was kind of possesive. I know her. I know it's only because she's right now feels alone and vulnerable..it's not love or affection for me.
But it was wrong of me to use her phone and it was wrong of me not to reveal everything to you. It would have been painful to tell you but not as painful as it is to tell you the things now cause i know you truely loved me and you must have felt so hurt and betrayed last night. There's no excuses for not telling you about the job situation and my current house situation. i can easily get my old job at the mental hospital back and i probably will cause i liked working there. And i will have to find a new place to stay...it may take sometime but it should be possible. What's much much worse is that i have betrayed you and lost you. I can't find words for the sorrow i feel. For the loss. And for hurting you. To you it may sound crazy but i will never never recover from this. I brought it on myself but that doesn't stop the pain, D.
I don't even know if you are gonna reply to my words, i don't even know if you are gonna tell her i wrote you (which I definitely not hope you are), i dont nothing today..just that i feel sad and ashamed.
That is one hell of a malicious message !
He is lying to me black on white about his marital status. The truth is: yes, he IS married. And I must know because I have paid for his divorce later. (you may laugh....)
And not only is he married he even blames her !
He does not get his job back although he is writing so reasonable about it. In contrary, he doesn't spend a second to think about to get a job.
That is one hell of a malicious message !
He is lying to me black on white about his marital status. The truth is: yes, he IS married. And I must know because I have paid for his divorce later. (you may laugh....)
And not only is he married he even blames her !
He does not get his job back although he is writing so reasonable about it. In contrary, he doesn't spend a second to think about to get a job.
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the best thing you can do regarding (...) is to ignore her, then she will lose interest in writing quickly.
i was honest to you about my feelings.
it was never an affair i wanted.
what i wanted and what i thought i had was true love.
His strategies again:
- manipulating and trying to isolate people from each other who could bring him in trouble !
Since he seemed upset about her and ashamed I did ignore her for a while as he "advised". Wrong ! Don't make the same mistake, listen to people !
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His strategies again:
- manipulating and trying to isolate people from each other who could bring him in trouble !
Since he seemed upset about her and ashamed I did ignore her for a while as he "advised". Wrong ! Don't make the same mistake, listen to people !
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if i had gone outside to find a phonebooth to call you then she would have kicked me out of the house in the middle of the night and i wasn't in a mood to run around in the middle of the night finding a place to sleep. But do you really think i wouldn't have called you if the circumstances was different ?
you dont know me that well then...
- playing serious, trying to create a bad conscious !
- playing serious, trying to create a bad conscious !
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i will answer all your questions one by one when i have the time.
right now i will have to go for the job interview.
please understand.
dont think i dont care about your questions but i am so busy right now.
please, understand..and please let me explain my answer and your questions when i have the time.
yours
Jakob.
- trying to gain time ! there is no job interview.
- trying to gain time ! there is no job interview.
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i didnt know about the actual dialogue. I am a bit shaken but not so much..i know her very well. She had said things which was much worse before. But i guess this is where my friendship with her ends. If i was married to her or being in relationship with her then i could understand it but we are absolutely free of each other so i have a hard time understanding her and her reasons, except for the things i told you: that if she is in a bad state then she doesn't want to be the only one who's suffering. I am already looking for another place to stay because this situation is very very unconfortable for me and probably for her too.
D, even looked through the eyes of last days incidents i can't say i regret writing you on youtube. I feel immensely sad that you should be dragged through all this drama, but i have never felt such love and need as i feel for you. I fully understand if you quit, if you think this is too much. But you should know one thing: I never never lied about my feelings for you, of the love i feel for you, of how much i need you.
Yesterday i went to my old job and they told me i was more than welcome to start again if i wanted to. It's nice to know i have a job again. That was one of the only good things that happend that day. I went to some friends of mine and asked them if i could stay at their house until i found something for myself. Negative. It wasn't the answer i hoped for so i have to be patient and trying to survive. I went home to the home that isn't mine and never will be and as i was in the kitchen cooking i completely cracked up. I just sat there on the kitchen floor and cried and cried. I couldn't stop. Not because i felt sorry for myself but because you wrote me you had the worse night in your life and because i was so afraid of losing you. i was alone -luckily.
I miss you so much, D. I miss logging on to myspace and read your messages, smile when i see your comments..i miss your voice. I have created an empty page on myspace..just in case you tell me to come back to you. But i think it would be wise of you if you put your page to private ?
Yes, Siri is a real person but it wasn't her phone i used. i called from "home". And the thing with the wax job..i am sorry i didnt explained better. it's when you remove hair on your body with hot wax.
The next couple of days i will have to get the best out of the situation. I have so much sadness in my heart and so much fear of losing you.
Jakob.
Lies, Lies, Lies !
Siri is not a real person. Siri does not exist.
And there is no new job. And no friends he could stay at a different place.
He suggests to set my page on private now what means noone else can have a look what is going on on a page. Another perfect isolation strategy.
He never lied to me ? Hell, he did !
He is taking the lie of the marriage to blame her again and play some kind of a victim.
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Lies, Lies, Lies !
Siri is not a real person. Siri does not exist.
And there is no new job. And no friends he could stay at a different place.
He suggests to set my page on private now what means noone else can have a look what is going on on a page. Another perfect isolation strategy.
He never lied to me ? Hell, he did !
He is taking the lie of the marriage to blame her again and play some kind of a victim.
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yes i will answer all your question with the truth.
if will fight for you, i will fight for your love..i know it will take time for you to heal, to trust me but i will never let your love go. (...)
I need you because i love you so much and all i have created so far is only pain for you. It hurts so much to know. I owe you so much bacause you have brought so many new and wonderful feelings to me. Please be strong and not let go.
(...)
yours
Jakob.
But he does not answer with the truth. Fighting in his world means to lie about lies. New lies cover old lies.
But he does not answer with the truth. Fighting in his world means to lie about lies. New lies cover old lies.
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This is a message from me to Jakob:
the story of your life you told me in the beginning, is that all true ?
the story of your life you told me in the beginning, is that all true ?
your family background, your sickness, the loss of your daughter, your travels through europe, your study ?
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Jakobs answer:
it's all true.
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Dearest D.
I can only imagine how you feel, which kind of thoughts is running through
your mind, but i can tell you how i am and how this situation makes me feel.
(...)
For you to understand or at least to know i will have to tell you some
things (...)
Shortly before Christmas (...) called me and asked if i could take a trip to
norway to look after her house while she was in Dubai. I said yes cause i
had enough time on my hand. I had finished a job (the contract was only for
one year) so i left denmark with the idea it would be fine for me to get
away and to see some old friends. It was a good christmas, lot's of friends
and parties and it felt good to be back. When (...) came back we talked
back and forth and she asked why i didn't moved back to norway -most of my
friends are here and she knows i dont like to live in Denmark. She told me i
could have a room in her house until i found something to live in by myself.
So i decided to move back, there was never ever a word about hooking up on
each other again. I found a job here in St., it was shitty working
hours (evening/nights as you know) but it paid well although i knew it was
only for a certain limited time i could have the job. A month ago i had to
stop the work but it was ok. I could need some time to rest and to find out
what to do next. It was at that time (...) began to change attitude.
Slowly she began to act like we were married. I didnt really pay any
attention to it before that night she went crazy and wrote you. I didnt knew
what she was writing before you showed me but even when i read her words to
you i wasn't angry at her. I felt such a sadness and a loss because i knew
that she had planted a seed of mistrust in you. It may seems strange to you
why i wasn't angry at her. I will tell you (...)
When i met her years ago she was living with a woman so we didnt have
anything sexual going on. We became really really good friends and often
visited each other although i lived in denmark and she in norway. One day
she asked me why i didnt moved up and lived with her and her girlfriend.
They had a big house and there was plenty of rooms. I said yes. Later it
turned out that she wanted so badly to have a child. She knew i had lost
B. and she knew how much i like children so she asked me one night if i
woukld be the father to her child. I thought about it for a long time. But i
knew she could be a good and loving mother so i said yes. I clearly told her
that i had no intension of just being a donor, that i would be an active
part in this. Her and her girlfriend did agree. I knew the norvegian system
is very oldfashioned so i told her we had to get married before having a
child. She said ok. But the time went and she didnt get pregnant, instead
she got more and more angry at me, at the situation. Finally we gave up the
marriage because there was no point in being together if there wasn't a
child. It was a very harsh and bitter divorce. She was so full of anger and
rage. After a year she contacted me again and she had came to terms with the
fact that i didnt delivered that child she had expected me to do. So we
became good friends again. But i knew how desperate she was to have a child.
That was why she was everyday involved in a new love affair.
Today she is going through a very very hard time where she is trying to face
up to the fact that she might not have a child. Sometimes she is aware of
the risk of not being a mother ever sometimes she is in denial. I now know
why she called me and asked to spent some time up here. She knows very well
that i can't have kids anymore but she needed someone to talk to, someone to
let her rage and anger out on. It is ok with me cause my shoulders are broad
and i can take a great deal without breaking. But what i didnt knew was how
my feelings for you would grow.
D., i am not a kid anymore. I have lived a life. i have had my fair share
of love affairs but i have never in my life felt what i feel for you. never.
For the first time in my life i am sure that i will love someone till the
day i die. I might be a naive fool but it is the truth. I swore to myself
that i would never never hurt you, that i would bring koy and happiness and
love into your life and that is why this situation is so hard for me to be
in. (...) And for how long ? I gave
(...) my word this weekend that i will stay with her and her girlfriend as
long as she is so broken as she is now. Later i talked to (...) (her
girlfriend) and she told me she thinks it will take a month or so before we
have her on right track again. We are not living as man a wife. we dont
kiss, fuck or shown up naked. What she need is to know people cares about
her and that she knows when she come home from work she wont be alone.
So i promised her to stay until she is feeling better. And she accepted that i am
So i promised her to stay until she is feeling better. And she accepted that i am
looking for another place to stay and that i use the internet while she is
at work. When she comes home i dont log on, i dont check emails..i prepare
dinner and getting ready for job. Before leaving (...) is coming home so
there is always someone around her. That's my life these days. I feel like a
prisoner but i know i could break free every minute i want to..i just dont
have the heart to do so.
(...)
it was a bitter and harsh divorce ? no.
he lost his daughter ? no.
he cares about her ? no.
he found a job ? no.
his wife did not live with her girlfriend. Another lie. They were best friends, not girlfriends.
Still, the story appears reasonable and makes you feel sorry for him if you cannot look through. And how can you ?
Remember that behaviour of him very well because this is what he will make out of you in his stories to new targets.
it was a bitter and harsh divorce ? no.
he lost his daughter ? no.
he cares about her ? no.
he found a job ? no.
his wife did not live with her girlfriend. Another lie. They were best friends, not girlfriends.
Still, the story appears reasonable and makes you feel sorry for him if you cannot look through. And how can you ?
Remember that behaviour of him very well because this is what he will make out of you in his stories to new targets.
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what my heart says about you i wrote. Do you think it was for fun i broke down and just felt to the floor and cried ? For the first time in my whole life i have found a woman whom
i can imagine growing old with. I know how it sounds but nevertheless it is the truth.
You might have a right to feel rage against (...), No, you have the right but all i can say is that she's not well and although it doesn't excuse her behavor i hope it somehow explains why. I felt like i wanted to hit her so badly when i read the words she sent you but i dont hit women and i ceratinly not women who are mentally very very fragile.
(...)
No one is well when you get betrayed and lied to.
But he twists the words clever to his favour by pretending to be an understanding man.
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Jakob tries everything to get me back and he will. He takes two months.
D.
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By reading the posts and the messages in this post it becomes clear that Jakob is very versed to put people in inner conflicts. The instinct tells you that something is wrong with the setup. There are always little signs which seem not to make sense or which appear confusing because they are hidden or unclear. When I made Jakob aware of inconsistencies in his stories he always had very good explanations for everything. And indeed they sound reasonable. But it is the amount of inconsistencies and new explanations which makes your instinct ring the bells. And your instinct is right. The stories he invents are good stories. That is the other hint. They are mostly too good or too amazing to be true. And if nothing works he uses the simple strategy to blame just others. It is a poor behaviour and not right. But no one is holy and if someone appears to be your instinct will knock at your door. Listen !
No one is well when you get betrayed and lied to.
But he twists the words clever to his favour by pretending to be an understanding man.
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Jakob tries everything to get me back and he will. He takes two months.
D.
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By reading the posts and the messages in this post it becomes clear that Jakob is very versed to put people in inner conflicts. The instinct tells you that something is wrong with the setup. There are always little signs which seem not to make sense or which appear confusing because they are hidden or unclear. When I made Jakob aware of inconsistencies in his stories he always had very good explanations for everything. And indeed they sound reasonable. But it is the amount of inconsistencies and new explanations which makes your instinct ring the bells. And your instinct is right. The stories he invents are good stories. That is the other hint. They are mostly too good or too amazing to be true. And if nothing works he uses the simple strategy to blame just others. It is a poor behaviour and not right. But no one is holy and if someone appears to be your instinct will knock at your door. Listen !
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Whats with a job as an actor ?
Jakob Maltese going to Hollywood, nominated for 5 Oscars in playing love dramas ...
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Darling, I havent aslept the whole night...i cried a lot when i read your words ............
(...), when i come home i want us to speak.
This morning i was trembling so much my hands were trembling because i think i know what is going on inside you.
Please let us speak tonight.........
I love you, darling
Yours
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I love you you you ......
This is not a fucking game !
Because i want you and love you and i am foolish enough to believe that you want me and need me too.
yours
J.
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The boyfriend displays typical psychopathic characteristics because he falsely displays deep emotion toward the relationship, says Willson. In reality, he's less concerned with his girlfriend's depression than with making sure she's clueless about the other woman's existence. In the romance department, psychopaths have an ability to gain your affection quickly, disarming you with words, intriguing you with grandiose plans. If they cheat you'll forgive them, and one day when they've gone too far, they'll leave you with a broken heart By then they'll have a new player for their game.
(Source: http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html)
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And he always tells you , like a prayer: "back-off from the others, they are all ill and want to damage what WE have" ........
But the only thing for these "Back-off" is, that you dont hear the truth from the other woman ...
what about your part in this "game " D. ?
if you honestly had already all those doubts about his activities...why did you hit on those other ladies and tried to destroy their lives, even you "knew" somehow that something was going totally wrong with Jakob ?
did you really believe that those ladies acted like he told you ?that they all were lunatics( one of his favorite indications for his victims.
with those doubts and experiences you should have listen to at least some of them , before you acted like a rival.
and you're not the only one. he always could continue with his lies to all of them , because you disclosed the alley.
To which "ladies" are you referring ? One of those, Jakob cheated me later with in 2009 ? There was just one I ever took action for some specific and very good reasons. It will be explained in chapter february 2009 and will become very clear then I think.
Also, please read chapter "sociopathic characteristics" again. Thank you for your contribution.
Hi A.
it doesnt matter if someone disclose alleys here...
Only infomations, ... collceted... for those who will read and understand, or even not ...
It helps a lot of people to understand what's really going on
everyone have to make his own experience , but its important to know about socio- and psychopaths ways and patterns ...
Dont think that he's unable to go totally over boarders and do some really , really bad things
X.
HERE its a special place for Jakob Maltese and all his aliases
( http://mrparasite1965.blogspot.com/2010/11/pseudonyms-aliases.html)
but here are thousands of other sociopaths on earth , too
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